According to SPM’s letter, immediately after finding out that Jane Doe had, in fact, seen the movie that she clearly said she had, Judge Ellis said “So, that’s a problem.”
Here’s the whole exchange:
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Jane Doe: This isn’t the one I seen at my house.
Judge: That’s not the one you saw at your house? Have you ever seen this?
Jane Doe: Yes.
Judge: Did you see the whole thing?
Jane Doe: Yes.
Judge: So, that’s a problem. Okay.
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Now I see two possible explanations for this, so I’m going to try to break it down to look at it more closely.
There’s two meanings that seem reasonable to me;
1) it’s a problem that she’s seen the movie. Now this could be because:
a. It’s a problem for the prosecution’s case. Maybe he believed them, or maybe he was just backing them up. I think that, if this is why he spoke, it suggests that anything that might exonerate Coy was a ‘problem’.
--Or--
b. It’s a problem because he just finished reversing his previous statement that Jane Doe’s answer was perfectly clear the first time, that it was common sense. Now it looks bad that he did that.
2) It’s a problem that the judge just asked the question, point-blank, and received a blatant answer.
Why would that be a problem? Well, there’s no wiggle-room left. The first time she said “I saw it’, it wasn’t in court; the only record of it was the prosecutor’s statement that it had happened, and it was easily dismissed by ‘talking to mom’.
Before she was made to sit down and watch the movie, the judge goaded Chip Lewis:
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Judge: Why are you afraid to ask her the question?
Chip: I’m not, Judge. This is a waste of time. I’m getting the runaround after the Court gave a perfect directive and Ms. Andrews followed it and I trust her, just like I trust you.
Judge: Well, I had no reason to believe she may have only seen a portion of the movie until this morning.
Chip: Yes, you did. You made the statement yesterday when Ms. Oncken made the objection about we don’t know what part she’s seen or not seen. And you said the Court - - and we could go back in the record - - I trust - -
Judge: So, I can’t change my mind is that what you’re telling me?
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I can only assume that Chip didn’t want to ask her because he suspected she’d either been told to lie or misled into believing she hadn’t seen it.
Now, she knew exactly which movie they’re talking about. When the judge asked his question it seems like he accidentally limited their options. How were they going to ‘fix’ such a blatant, obvious answer? Despite the prosecutor’s insinuation that she couldn’t remember titles, she obviously remembered the movie, and immediately knew that she had not, in fact, watched it at her house with her mother, father, and cousin.
The mother ‘misremembered’ how and where she saw the movie; Jane Doe remembers perfectly, and Mom’s later testimony backs that up. Whether it was done intentionally or not, it appears that Jane Doe’s memory of the event was steamrollered by someone. “No, no, this is what really happened”.
Eventually the second story is presented to the jury, but not the story of how it got there. They didn’t get to see how it was turned around in a period of a few days, and were prevented from seeing how easily testimony could be crafted, tweaked, and changed.
http://www.spmaftermath.com/2012/06/spm-responds-part-8e.html
http://www.spmaftermath.com/2012/06/spm-responds-part-8c.html
42 comments:
has he responded about lil bing?
What does SPM case really have to do with lil bing? Let's keep this on the subject at hand and you will get your response in due time. Free SPM, keep up the good work
anonymous 9:59 is a idiot. fuck lil Bing this is spm blog spot. stop asking about lil Bing. u sound like a dumb ass.
Yup I agree. FUCK LIL BING. This is a spm blog not a Bing blog. Smh
Anon: 9:59 I mean c'Mon@ iam not hating on Lil Bing but right know let's focus on spm drama what's the deal with you and Lil Bing bout what spm think bout him like I said it before if spm has something to say to Bing he will probly do it on a shout out on 1 of his shout out tracks free spm
lol at the lil bing responses.u idiots dont realize they eorked together alot maybe the guy has a good point l..i too wanna hear about lil bing.
i wanna hear bout lil bing too!!!! that ingrando park locsta he was better than spm himself.!!
Hi. Incandesio is Carlos still going to release hes book this year? Thank you for your time....
Lil Bing better than SPM hell nah , what has LIL Bing dropped since he been locked up ? This is coming from a nigga that reps Tango Blast . Lil Bing got skills and is better than lucky luciano not better than SPM , niggas are still rapping and cant even catch up to SPM never compare SPM to none of these dudes FREE SPM who is the best latino rapper alive.
If you want to know about LIl Bing why dont you write him a letter all you have to do is go to the tdcj inmate finder enter his name and there you go and you will have his info and send him a letter some money in his books some pictures and ask him how he is doing, and tell him to get a guard to sneak him a digital device so that he can record some new shit. Its easy to get contraband in prison look at SPM the digital king he recording in prison , well now they are watching him in prison money talks bullshit walks , the ghost aka prison guard brings you whatever you need if the money is right or if shes a female guard even better ,FREE SPM another thing in texas prisons inmates are not allowed to write to one another ask IKEMAN im sure he can tll you how LIL Bing is doing or call Connely Unit in Kenedy TEX where Lil Bing is locked up at there I just helped you out.
nope big pun is the greatwst latin rapper dumbass
SPM is the best there is. Los is just on another level, they can't stop him and thats the fucking the truth. SPM is a TRUE legend.i don't know about y'all but I'm more concerned about SPM getting justice.I agree with the previous poster SPM is still on his grind despite being locked up, he's the digital king. and i also like Bings music but if y'all REALLY want to know about him do some research, write him a letter, ask his wife or sister about him. idk who uses myspace or not but BIng has one last i heard he's been trying to release an album for a few months(maybe a year ?). i wish that one day i can go to one of ur concerts. Keep ur head up. FREE SPM!!!
FREE SOUTH PARK MEXICAN! THE BEST !!!!!!
@incandesio what's the process you have to go thru in order to get a interview with Los
big pun was the most commercially successful latino raper. there is no denying that but SP TO THE MOTHERFUCKING M IS THE BEST LATINO RAPPER EVER!! simple question... who else has sold as many cds and has as strong of a fanbase WITHOUT EVER GETTING RADIO PLAY?? yeah... thats what i thought!!
FREE THE GOTDAMN WETBACK!!
Anon 9:59:
He did send a Quick Update about lil Bing, and that will go up sometime in the next few weeks. I'm not sure how frequently he intended the Updates to be posted.
Anon 3:12:
Thank you for reading! There's been no release date for the book, last I heard he was still working on it.
Anon 10:17:
Once he gets out of AdSeg (No interview priviledges), you'd have to go through the prison warden, I believe.
Hey pendejo from anon 6:29 learn how to read I said SPM is the best rapper alive . RIP Big Pun is dead u dumb bitch learn how to read and comprehend.
regardless, SPM is the best rapper that there ever will be
fucken idiots eveb spm said it himself big pun is up there with tupac & biggie. spm will nvr reach that . admit it retards.
yea BIG PUN IS UP THERE WITH 2PAC IN HEAVEN , BIG PUN IS NOT ALIVE , SPM IS STILL LIVIN SO THAT MAKES HIM THE BEST LATINO RAPPER YOU DUMB HOE. YOU ADMIT IT THAT HE IS THE BEST LATINO RAPPER ALIVE.
INCANDESIO check this case going on about this dude name RAYMOND KASPER his case is similar to SPM were the 12 year old said she might have been dreaming now the prosecutors found out that the girl and aunt were lying, this dude used to date the girls mother and I guess he had an affair and ended the relationship so she falsely accuse him. Thats cold now I want to see what happens with his case jury is deliberating now. Free SPM
yea BIG PUN IS UP THERE WITH 2PAC IN HEAVEN , BIG PUN IS NOT ALIVE , SPM IS STILL LIVIN SO THAT MAKES HIM THE BEST LATINO RAPPER YOU DUMB HOE. YOU ADMIT IT THAT HE IS THE BEST LATINO RAPPER ALIVE.
INCANDESIO check this case going on about this dude name RAYMOND KASPER his case is similar to SPM were the 12 year old said she might have been dreaming now the prosecutors found out that the girl and aunt were lying, this dude used to date the girls mother and I guess he had an affair and ended the relationship so she falsely accuse him. Thats cold now I want to see what happens with his case jury is deliberating now. Free SPM
INCANDESIO check this case going on about this dude name RAYMOND KASPER his case is similar to SPM were the 12 year old said she might have been dreaming now the prosecutors found out that the girl and aunt were lying, this dude used to date the girls mother and I guess he had an affair and ended the relationship so she falsely accuse him. Thats cold now I want to see what happens with his case jury is deliberating now. Free SPM
Anon 12:24:
Thanks for the tip! I will keep an eye on that.
What must I do to visit Lil Bing and eat a johnny sac with him? And possibly talk about who's the better rapper out of Petey Pablo and Kanye West?
BIG PUN NO VALE VERGA! WHO THE FUCK STILL LISTENS TO THAT NIGGA!?
Spm fosho, big pun dont know him, from wat I see he dead, so yea. Tu pac only listen to like 2 of his songs but he dead. Lil bing he got flow but compared to spm's heeeo nah. Carlos got stories of real life experiences in his music. Nd just like he said...."cant no one outflow me unless a scientist clone me"
man I aint a book fan but Id like to read carlos book fosho.
If you want to eat a johhny sack with lil bing get your ass locked up , and when you get locked up in prison you will get checked to see if you aint no bitch and if you break you will be somebodies bitch and you will eat alot of johnny sack pendejo.
I just now stopped at the store and made my bitch pump the gas. She thinks we gonna kick it at the house but she about to mow, weedeat, and edge up my shit! FREE THAT NIGGA LOS!
Free spm !!!!! For all the bitch niggas that come in here talking about bing and big pun.. This is SPM blog... only real spm fans are welcome here.. IF UR A REAL MUTHA FUKA LIKE SPM U SHOULD THAT SPM IS DA GREATEST... HE'LL MAKE ANYTHING RAP SPEAKIN THE TRUTH... SO GET THE FUK OUT OF HERE WITH LIL BING AND BIG PUN... FREE SPM!!! DEY CANT STOP US THEY TRY BUT DEY CANT STOP US.... GOOD WORK INCANDESIO..
U SHOULD KNW THAT SPM IS THE GREATEST...
Yall fools need to go to LIL BING/BIG PUNAFTERMATH.COM
^^^^^^ HaHa :D
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SPM the greatest of all time. SPM has just taken this rap game to another level, he's creating his own legacy. The things he's been able to accomplish are incredible. No radio play and his albums still sell like crazy and the man is still wrecking from the cage. SPMs music goes hard. FREE CARLOS COY!!!!
all u lil punk ass bitches talking about lil Bing and big pun are idiots. why even mention there names on here? this has nothing to do with them and that's finale! spm is the best, better than big pun and Bing! bottom line haters!
Free spm the best of the best!!!!
POVERTY STRIKRES ANOTHER ONE WRITES, COPS FLASH LIGHTS ON DOPE FIEND'S PIPES. THE POISONOUS ROCK THAT CURSES MY BLOCK, FOR ONE MAN TO RISE ANOTHER MUST DROP ...
SPM is the best! Free the Mexican!
I jus noticed that Juan gotti uses spms freestyle on dope house family look up spm deep instrumental n go to end n spm free styles n Juan uses it in that song jus sayn
Anon. 12:49
Lol that's fucking old and u obviously don't know spm songs.but that's good that u noticed your picking up little by little as for me been a fan since day one bout a gray tape on the restroom for 6 dlls back in the day in a local club here in pasadena south Houston revenge was the song I most like from the tape hillwood.ps the old.ass radio fuck the tape lol just fucking upgrade to cd when a bout it again dope gets u hook speacially if its good no cut
Free los
What movie did she watch or didn't watch
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